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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 22:20:40 GMT
I have several players on my minor league squad that will be on my major league team when the season starts. It makes no since for me to draft someone, just to have to cut them and pay a buyout a few weeks from now. Can I just pass on a pick or two in the draft?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 0:43:07 GMT
I second this sentiment. I have as many as three!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 0:56:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 2:47:10 GMT
You’re right, of course. It was previously made clear.
It just feels like we’re being punished for wanting to start the rookies we drafted in the majors. Theres a start-up tax on first year players—the cost of the buyout on top of offering the rookie contract.
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Post by Phillies (Rook) on Feb 19, 2020 4:30:44 GMT
Look.......rules are rules. It’s not good to change them mid stream, HOWEVER, not drafting the last one, two, or three picks hurts NO ONE. It appears that several managers want this so let’s do it. I’ll message all the teams. Thanks for staying interested and caring. It almost makes me cry! Not really, lol. Again, no one loses or gets an advantage on whatever each team decides to do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 6:30:53 GMT
I disagree with this. changing the rules as we go is not a good way to start the league. Also spending time trying to even out trades with mlb picks this whole time and then turning that around an saying we dont need to draft 26 makes no sense.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 6:39:28 GMT
I have made several trades and they all would be different if i didnt need to "Even out" the number of mlb picks. I just made a trade with Rook to save cap space and sacrificed 2 potential solid players to do it when in turn i could have just skipped out on the remaining rounds.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 6:47:32 GMT
Evening out picks is a rules structure and adds a layer of complexity to the draft. Even if you can skip picks it doesn't completely take that away. It wasn't clear in the rules or in the previous discussion if skipping picks was allowed or not. Commish just clarified that now and I support it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 13:34:50 GMT
Evening out picks was only done because of roster limitations. Commish didn't want us dealing unequal numbers of MLB picks because you can't have more than 26 on your active roster. Unequal swaps would give one team too many selections. You are still required to have a valid 26 man roster.
I don't think it makes sense to let managers say "Oh, I want to skip my 10th round pick to save salary". That's not the point of this rule adjustment. The idea is to let us avoid drafting players we will immediately drop.
Like, there is no way a 31 year old Shogo is starting in AAA for the Reds. I want him on my active roster. Why should I have to draft someone in round 26 and then immediately buy them out, costing me $0.5? I should be able to offer Shogo the rookie contract in that spot instead. That's what is being allowed here.
The only picks you should be allowed to forfeit are ones starting at round 26 and working backwards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 15:01:03 GMT
I understand your guys points. BUT the bottom line to me is that before you construct your team you read the rules and plan accordingly. I read the rules and made a plan and im following that plan. I feel that my draft would have been different to this point if this rule was different. Therefore making it unfair to change at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 15:14:02 GMT
I see your point, Wyatt, but what impact does this have on your team?
Honestly, it would open more options for you. I plan to pass at least 2 picks, therefore leaving 2 additional players on the board. I think this change was necessary for the health of league, as now we don't have to pick, buyout, and promote players.
Perhaps you could tell me where you see the negative?
I'm not being snarky, I just don't see the downside to this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 16:13:09 GMT
This rule change totally benefits the teams that traded their Round 21-26 picks to move up in the draft. To be fair, if this rule change happens it should be for next season.
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Post by Phillies (Rook) on Feb 19, 2020 16:45:44 GMT
The problem with this change is............what else will Rook change in this league? Will this be a pattern? I think that might be the bigger issue.
Here is my thinking.......When making my decision to allow teams to draft less than 26 rounds came down to how many guys I thought would be offended by changing the draft rule? I calculated there might be one or two at most. . Jim for one, in a previous thread stated “a rule is a rule”, changing it now isn’t good, or something like that.. There appeared to be three or four guys who were annoyed having to draft all 26 rounds. Thinking, I have a problem that might get out of hand with the good harmony we have here, so far. What to do? Am thinking. Either decision I make will be wrong, so which causes the least amount of grief or damage control. I choose to draft less rounds if wanted. Less potential damage control.
Here is the skinny, the reality, the truth, the non-apologetic, not politically correct response to this conversation. I say it the way I feel.......For those who dislike the 26 mandatory draft, it’s a lot to do about nothing. Let’s say you have two guys drafted, you then need to immediately buyout for prospects. You will be forced to lose a total of $1 cap for those two players. BFD! All teams have extra cap to play with. Second, the draft ends around March 8, almost three weeks before the season starts. In that lag time, a bunch of players will go on the IL, You won’t have to buy out players most likely. Third, how many times in a non salary cap league was your draft three weeks out from the season, PERFECT? I would say zero. Everyone hits the waiver wire for someone when the season starts. It’s no difference here, really. You aren’t thinking it out completely, this comment from experience.
Now to the other camp, the rules are the rules guys. Wyatt.....you made a trade to with me to save cap money. I pointed out in my trade offer to you that you were going to have only $10 cap left after our 26 round draft. You had traded up a bunch. Our trade gave you picks in the later rounds to save cap. I think your argument now is more over principal than actual hurt to your team. I get it. I agree actually.
Bottom line, can we please draft 26 rounds, or 25 rounds, or less, whichever floats your boat and move on? After all, we are arguing over potential picks of utility infielders, backup catchers, marginal relievers, 5th best SP for Detroit or Baltimore, lol, lol. And the loss of $1 in cap money if being forced to draft 26 rounds.
How outrage or arguments works in today’s culture, as soon as I am done speaking, writing, the responder who hasn’t really read or listened with an open mind, shoots back a response to further bolster their position. I am not going to pay that game. Spent too much time and energy on this topic already. I could have done better with the official rules. It’s too late for that so....
Moving forward, my message to all concerning the draft stands. Draft 26 rounds or less.
Thanks for letting me vent.
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